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>> rick: we begin with a fox news alert on the latest efforts to contain more than a half dozen wildfires burning across five western states. at least two people have already been killed after flames ripped through one home and some ten others are unaccounted for. glad you're with us. i'm rick folbaum. >> arthel: i'm arthel neville. welcome to a brand-new hour inside america's headquarters. >> rick: we're waiting for updates on the wildfires that are raging out in colorado. the area seeing much of the devastation after more than 300 homes have burned to the ground. over in laramer county, some were forced to watch in disbelief as the flames consumed everything that they had built
and worked for. >> how long have you lived here? >> 50 years plus ten days exactly. now it is dejavu. i have to rebuild this whole place. not really because i want, but it is no choice. so very simple, like or not like, this is which i have to do. you can not afford permanently to be in a sad mood. >> rick: alicia is live with the very latest. it breaks your heart to listen to that man talk about his home and there are so many other homeowners dealing with the same thing. >> that's right. 347 here in colorado springs. excuse me. 346. fire officials, as we await this update from them, are hoping
that they can continue with this pattern we've seen for the past few days, that they can announce there has been an increase in containment. of course, this fire has showed them very much so, that things can change at any moment. take a listen. >> i just want y'all to know that our heart aches for people that lost their lives and/or people that lost property. it aches. but there is 81% of those homes that were saved. >> if you take a look at this video that one of our photographers took today, you can see how in the middle of the burned out rubble, there are homes that appear to be untouched. much like you would see if a tornado would have gone through. firefighters who have been doing this their whole lives say they have never seen anything like this and they say it is because that 65 miles per hour wind was so powerful, it pushed the flames in a remarkable way. tomorrow a number of evacuees will be able to take a tour of their neighborhoods. there will be folks who are still under mandatory evacuation
orders. 10,000 people remain. today we learned police counted 22 homes broken into in the burned out areas. one arrest has been made and also today, rick, police told us that a lot of these hotels where the evacuees are staying, their cars are packed with their belonging, some is all they have left, folks are actually trying to break into their cars to take some of the last of what they have. back to you. >> rick: alicia, thanks so much. >> arthel: a miserable weekend shaping up along the east coast. a series of devastating storms killing at least 12 people and leaving more than 3 million without power. this could create crisis conditions in many areas coming during a weekend of dangerous triple digit temperatures. the power outage affecting people all the way from indiana to new jersey. and what we're going to do now dip into colorado springs where the mayor bach is speaking right now. >> place to go for that information.
but tomorrow we're going to allow the people that were evacuated from mount shadows to reenter that property at 10:00 o'clock. we have a check-in process from 8 'til 10 tomorrow. and if you're going to go into that area, you need to bring some sort of proof showing you should be there whether it's through your driver's license, a lease, some method to show to the people you'll be checking in through that you should be there and you have authority to do that. only residents that live within the boundaries of 30 streets on the south, centennial street on the east and flying w ranch to the north will be allowed access. so again, the check-in times from 8 to 10. access time from 10 to 6. 10:00 a.m. to 6. so you can get in there for eight hours. you can look at your homes. you can go in your homes. we would caution you, though, if a property is burned out, we do
not want to you get into that burned out property. some of that property will have barrier tape around that. so we don't want, again, i'll say again, we don't want any sifting through debris. we still have fire in some of those burned out foundations and we want you to be careful. springs dgov.com. we'll have two check-in points. north division and we will have the south division. those people that live on chuck wagon road, south of wolf ranch and south of flying w ranch road and west of centennial boulevard will check in at the school at 1325 vindicator drive. that's a loft directions. i'll refer you again back to our web site. the south division, south division, those folks, south of chuck wagon road, north of 30th street, west of
centennial boulevard will check in at verizon building. we need some proof that you should be in there. >> arthel: we were listening to the mayor of colorado springs giving very specific details and information to the residents there. safety, of course, important in these situations. we'll dip back in if there is something we need to bring to you on fox news. the danger situation hitting the nation's capitol. doug mckelway is live in springfield, virginia with more. doug, what's the situation there? >> well, there is every indication that the 3 million people in the mid atlantic states who are presently without power may not have power potentially for days to come. that in the midst of these 100-degree temperatures we're expect -- which are expected to last for another few days. we know crews have been called from as far away as texas. that's a two-day drive. crews have been called from closer states such as pennsylvania, are on hold now because they're expecting another line of strong
thunderstorms to come through tonight. so they can't be released. take a look at the kind of damage that we're seeing, literally for hundreds of miles around. you can see the high tension power lines which were brought down bay very big tree. last night at about 11:00 o'clock, that tree landed on top of a car that was using this road at the time, crushing and killing the driver inside. about an hour ago, we saw family members of that person come to this scene. learned they are buddhist. they came with a buddhist monk. they were praying. we saw a woman lean up against the tree and collapse in grief. that family apparently was supposed t birthday today. instead, they're grieving the loss of a loved one. the governor of virginia said this is the most damage created by a nonhurricane storm with the state of virginia has seen in its history. governor martin o'malley of maryland expressed similar sentiments earlier today. here he is. >> i can only say from talking to our public service commission
people they are comparing this outage to hurricane irene. >> statewide, it is on a par with hurricane irene. it's more spread out in some ways than hurricane irene was. >> meteorologists call this kind of storm a dericho. it's big front line wind storm, created by convection currents, 100 miles long. unlike most thunderstorms which create a grand squall, it comes in suddenly. the wind intensity built up again and again and again over about a half hour period where the wind gusts measured up to 80 miles an hour last night. they're expecting another line of strong thunderstorms to come through pennsylvania area tonight and this area. in fact, we've just learned that a big thunderstorm is headed for orange county, virginia. expected to reach that area at 6:30 tonight. coming through to us, perhaps later in the evening. we'll be on stand-by for that. arthel, back to you. >> arthel: definitely not out of
the woods. it's heart break to go hear the stories of the deaths as it is and then when you're going to a birthday celebration makes it doubly heart breaking. thank you so much for that report. >> rick: i want to turn our attention to overseas and leaders from around the world meeting today, trying keep syria peace plan alive. this as the bloodshed there continues. government troops forcing their way into a rebel city near the country's capital after weeks of shelling. amateur video showing the destruction. a man holding a battered copy of the koran can be heard saying, quote, god is greater than you, bashar. that's a reference to the syrian president. greg palkot screaming live from syria. greg? >> the comments from secretary of state clinton probably getting noticed by at least a few folks here in damascus tonight. here is one quote. syrian president bashar al assad
has to go. the writing is on the wall. those comments from clinton coming after that high level geneva meeting that was led by u.n. syrian envoy kofi annan. the grouping called for an end to the violence and also a transitional unity government here. crucially and the hitch is that wording of the final commune kay does not exclude assad from taking part in that government. the u.s. wanted to keep him out. russia and china didn't want to keep him out. they won. around damascus, we found people getting on with their saturday, maybe trying to take their mind off the fighting which as we've seen in the past several days, is getting closer and closer to the center here. probably not paying too much attention to the diplomacy abroad either. we did peek today with a high level government official and he said very flatly that the assad regime would not take any instructions, any guidance from foreign bodies, including the
united states. probably an idea of how the government will respond to the words coming out of geneva today. and as for the rebel fighters who have been active all across this country, again, as we've been watching in the last several days, they have flatly said, too, that they would not participate in any transitional government, which would include assad. the stalemate continues. >> rick: greg palkot streaming live from damascus, thanks so much. >> arthel: we go to egypt where islamist mohammed morsi promising a new country as he is sworn in as the first freely elected president over there. the muslim brotherhood candidate was not the party's first choice for president. he was thrown into the race when the group's original candidate was disqualified over a criminal conviction. morsi succeed hosni mubarak, who was ousted more than a year ago. >> rick: it's also election day for our southern neighbors. voters in mexico heading to the polls tomorrow to pick a new president. no doubt pocketbook issue is a
major concern, but voters are concerned with the country's rising violence and the growing power of the drug cartels. william lajeunesse is streaming live from mexico city with a preview of that. hi, william. >> you know, rick, six years, 50,000 dead, to many mexicans confronting the cartels head to head has not worked. while no one is raising the white flag, it appears that most mexican majority are willing to switch political parties and a new leader, enrique pena nieto to lead mexico. he's a handsome former governor, an actress wife from the soap operas. they call them the brad pitt and angelina jolie of mexico. he had a double digit lead. when is this guy? what is it he mean for the u.s.? it's a pragmatist and comes from a political party that mexico threw out of party 12 years ago after seven decades in power. he says his party changed. not everyone is convinced.
>> we are fed up with politician s and all politicians. it's up to pena nieto to prove that he's different. if he succeeds, then i think a lot of people will deliver the loyalty it him. >> 15 points back is manuel lopez obrado. he's charismatic to some. out of touch to others. he's a champion of the poor. many resent the way he lost six years ago when he refused to concede and left mexico city in gridlock for weeks under protest another, on paper, she's perfect. motivational speaker, twice a cabinet minister, led her party in congress. and yet, she is led an unfocused
campaign and burdened by the undelivered reforms of the current party. >> mexicans are looking for change. they're tired of government by the national action party. if you were to ask a mexican on the street if they're better off today than 12 years ago or six years ago, very few would say yes. >> many fear nieto will let the cartels off the hook to accommodate them. that's when his party has con done in the past and he would reduce violence in exchange for staying out of their business affairs, rick. it appears the majority of mexicans again are willing to overlook that and his personal short comings. he admitted he cheated on his first wife and he fathered two children out of wedlock with different women and yet again, he didn't take a dent in the polls and appears leading going into tomorrow's vote. >> rick: william lajeunesse with a preview of what's to happen tomorrow in mexico.
thanks. >> arthel: new reaction to a disturbing scandal rocking the u.s. air force. what the defense department is now saying about allegations of sexual misconduct against more than 30 of its female recruiters. >> rick: president obama and governor mitt romney have both touted themselves as the candidate who will not raise taxes. could this week's supreme court ruling on health care come back to haunt both of their campaigns? we'll have a fair and balanced debate coming up next. >> what the court did not do on its last day in session, i will do on my first day if elected president of the united states. and that is i will act to repeal obamacare. why not make lunch more than just lunch? with two times the points on dining in restaurants,
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>> arthel: welcome back. israel mourning the death of former prime minister shah mirror. he was 96. current prime minister, netanyahu remembering his predecessor as a man who, quote, led israel with a deep loyalty to the nation. a european union embargo on iran's oil export taking effect tomorrow. the measure intend to do pressure the country over fears that it is developing nuclear weapons. the charge iran denies. and penny paul free braving shark infested waters in her quest to become the first woman
to swim unassisted from cuba to florida. the 49-year-old plans to arrive tomorrow afternoon. >> rick: politics now, a growing debate on the impact of the supreme court's health care decision and what it could potentially mean for president obama and for governor mitt romney. on thursday, as you know, the supreme court declaring that the individual man it is date portion of the health care act was constitutional because the fine imposed on those who do not purchase health insurance could legally be considered a tax. a requirement that is nearly identical to the one approved in massachusetts by then governor mitt romney, who has often touted himself on the campaign trail as never having raised taxes. kevin mccullough is a radio host and the author of "no he can't," how barak obama is dismantling hope and change. josh flock, former spokesman for the clinton-gore and gore-lieberman presidential campaign. gentlemen, good to see you. i want to try to stay away from talking points and just go
through the facts here as we know it. the "wall street journal," kevin, has taken a look at the amount of tax revenue that has come in to the state of massachusetts as a result of let's just call it romneycare. this year alone, taken in additional tax revenue every year, this year over $20 million. mitt romney has said he never raised taxes as governor. can he still say that? >> whether he can or not, i don't think addresses the issue of what obamacare is essentially going to be. >> rick: can he get up in front of people and voters and say, i did not raise taxes as governor of massachusetts when we know, in fact, about the amount of tax revenue that has been raised as a result of the health care plan that he put in place? >> it's interesting you bring that up because the obama people said that obamacare wasn't a tax until they argued it before the supreme court and then they suddenly switched to calling it a tax. i don't know what governor romney classifies that amount of
money. >> rick: he called it a tax: usa today in 2009, he said, we establish incentives in massachusetts for those who are uninsured to buy insurance using tax penalties as we did, or tax credits as others have proposed, encouraging free riders to take responsibility for themselves rather than pass their medical costs on to others. this doesn't cost the government a single dollar. kevin, it sounds like something that president obama could have said after the supreme court's announcement on thursday. >> he certainly could. and it's certainly going to be the case that president obama ushered in the largest middle class, direct to the middle class tax hike in the history of the country through obamacare. at least what justice robertis he pulled the veil off and now allowed the taxpayers to see the president was lying the entire time. this is a huge tax. the largest tax in american history. >> rick: we'll get back to that in a moment. there are other reports out that this is not, in fact, the largest tax in american history. but let me go to josh because josh, the president has a
problem of his own on his hands. let's be fair and balanced about this. this is a president who ran on a promise to not raise taxes on any individuals making less than $200,000 a year, any families making less than $250,000 a year. yet, there is president obama possible way he can claim that's going to be the case as a result of the health care bill. what does the president do about that? >> look, i think most americans, the idea that people who are free loading in the emergency rooms and trying to get the rest of to us pick up their health care cost have to pay it back, whether you call that a tax, you call it a penalty, that's pure legal semantics. it's just as much nonsense as saying obama is responsible for a tax increase. the idea that health care reform has been put in a place isn't just really about insuring the uninsured. it's about unleashing the economic focus in small business in america. and the cost of health care has been spiraling out of control and squeezing small business. >> rick: i know. we can get into that. but i've got to press you the
way that i pressed kevin. the president said he wasn't gog raise taxes on that group of people. he is raising taxes on that group of people. how big of a problem is that? >> i don't think that's actually true, rick. the numbers of people who are going to have to pay this penalties is maybe 2% of folks in the country and those are folks who can afford to have health care, but decide not to get it and go into the emergency room. the idea that the gop is out there suggesting this is somehow forcing people to do something they shouldn't do, health care is still a choice. if you don't want to get it, you don't have to. but if you go to the emergency room and get health care, you'll have to pay something back. that seems only fair. the idea that the republicans are complain being a bill that a, unleashes the focus of small business america and two, forces free load force start paying something is deeply ironic. they hate this bill so much, they're trying to turn this into something they can't. they can't fight on health care. they can't fight on the economics. they're falling back to the stand by, which is democrats want to raise taxes. it's nonsense. it's semantic attention.
>> rick: kevin, i know that saying this is a single biggest tax increase in u.s. history probably makes for very good talk on your radio show. >> i don't know what you call this. >> rick: it's not true, though, according to a number of independent analyses that this is not, not, in fact, the single greatest tax increase. that aside, i want to ask you this, for mitt romney, and for republicans who are going to be campaigning for this november, at what point do they have to go from talking about repeal and replace to talk being what they would replace this health care law with? talking about specifics for those with preexisting conditions, for folks who have all of these other sorts of problems who will be covered under the health care act, but would not be covered under it if it were to be repealed. >> nobody is arguing the reform isn't necessary senator tom cobd the most well balanced approach, common sense reform while president obama was seeking to reform this. >> rick: when do we need to hear
the specifics about it? >> i think -- i don't think you will hear specifics about necessarily any of this until after the election and you don't have to. the american people don't like obamacare. they don't like its cost. they don't like what it's already done to the system and they're not going to like it in 2014 when the real cost begins to hit. rick, i don't care what your studies say, the analysis that i read and trust says 1.7 trillion over the next ten years that will be the largest tax increase and it's not a tax increase that's aimed at people who can afford it the way josh misrepresented it. it's actually a tax increase aimed at people who make too much money to qualify for medicare and medicaid, but not enough money to be able to purchase it on their own. we're talk being families that make 40 to $60,000 a year. primary target of who will be penalized by this tax as it has been properly defined by the supreme court. >> rick: revenue act of 1942 was a bigger tax increase. the revenue act of 1961, the current tax payment act of 1943. >> we will see.
you may be right, but we will see. >> rick: josh, the last word. >> the republicans hate barak obama. we get it. doesn't mean you have to make stuff up. >> i didn't say anything about the president. the people don't like the idea that -- the idea people don't want to have folks who have health care issues be able to get insurance is nonsense. the idea that small business is not being constrained, the economy is not growing as fast as it could. it's true. i think what we're seeing is the triumph over common sense over politics and semantics. the american people will be happy -- >> rick: the american people want specifics. republicans need to come out with specifics before november, as much as people might not like obamacare, they want to know what the republicans are going to put in its place and we'll find out if they do that or not. i'll be watching and listening very closely. >> you got to pay for it, guys. >> rick: gentlemen, thank you
very much. >> you're welcome. >> arthel: very nice. the u.s. anti-doping agency formally accusing cyclist lance arp strong of using performance enhancing drugs during his career. what this could mean for the retired champ's legacy. plus, two men bound for mexico facing a life and death situation when tropical storm debby intervenes. find out how they survived seven days lost at sea. >> one little hole, that's all i looked at for about four days. i reminded myself of a sea turtle looking around. is everything all right yet? >> it wasn't. >> no, it wasn't our cloud is not soft and fluffy. our cloud is made of bedrock. concrete. and steel. our cloud is the smartest brains combating the latest security threats. it spans oceans, stretches continents.
some 10,000 others are still under mandatory evacuation orders. the u.s. forest service now says it could take weeks to fully contain those flames. >> arthel: extreme heat is paralyzing much of the south. highs this weekend are expected to stay well above the triple digit mark. >> rick: and the man at the center of the 1992 l.a. riots buried in the hollywood hills following a public memorial service today, rodney king's body was discovered earlier this month by his fiance at the bottom of their swimming pool at their home in california. >> arthel: the air force investigating what appears to be a disturbing trend at lockland air base in texas. in the past year, 31 women have come forward with sexual misconduct claims dating as far back as 2009. the cases involve nine trainers from the same squadron, one of whom admits assaulting ten trainees. molly henneberg live in washington with more. molly? >> arthel, at least one female member of congress is not convinced that the military is
doing enough to prevent examine combat sexual assault of women in the military. and she points to this sex scandal in the air force as evidence of that. but top leaders in the defense department say the pentagon is taking this very seriously. 12 basic training instructors at lackland air force base in san antonio, texas, where every air force recruit reports for basic training, are being investigated for sexual misconduct. six of the 12 face charges ranging from rape to adultery. defense secretary leon panetta says there is, quote, no tolerance for this kind of behavior. and has ordered a full investigation. >> we have no place in the military for sexual assault. we've reached out to bring women into the military. i'm very proud of what we've been able to do. i'm very proud of what women have been able to do in the military. but we have to maintain strict discipline here to insure that sexual assault does not happen. >> most of the instructors under
investigation are from one squadron, 331st training squadron. their leader, michael packet, was removed from his post, but has not been accused of misconduct. still one member of congress, california democratic congresswoman jackie spear, wants congress to investigate. >> clearly the military is unable to police itself on matters of rape and sexual assault. i called for a hearing into lackland scandal because we need to know once and for all why instructors have been permit to do abuse powers so freely and we need to know from top brass that the phrase zero tolerance for sexual assault in the military is a fact. not a talking point. >> air force leaders say they will reexamine the training process for instructors of whom only 11% are female. arthel. >> arthel: molly henneberg, thank you very much for that report. >> rick: the u.s. anti-doping agency now filing formal charges against cyclist lance armstrong,
accusing the tour defrance champion of using performance enhancing drugs throughout most of his career. they claim to have witnesses involving him and five of his former teammates. if found guilty, he could be stripped of all the titles he won from 1999 to 2005. he denies the charges, calling them, quote, wrong, and baseless. two men reunited reunited wr families after spending seven days lost at sea. they were heading from mexico when tropical storm debby hit. their barge and tug tossed around like toys in a raging river. after battling to stay afloat, they eventually sank, leaving them stranded in the churning gulf of mexico. now more from fox affiliate, wtbt in tampa. >> it was sudden and violent. it was a fight for your life. >> vans, brian and brian were dehydrated and weak and running on adrenaline. but happy to be on dry land.
>> i said lord, i said, lord, thank you very much. >> they were mexico bound and were rescued 90 miles off the coast of tarpen springs. >> like a beach ball at the beach. it blew us probably 100 miles. >> rick: they were zipped up in a life raft just like this one we found at solution one maritime in tampa and bounced around in the churning gulf of mexico. >> there is one little hole, that's all i looked out for about four days. i reminded myself of a sea turtle looking around, is everything all right yet? >> and it wasn't? >> no, it wasn't. >> so during debby, they would have been able to open up a small port hole and see what was going on. >> if you can imagine, that was two guys stuck in an eight person raft. we have five people here in a six person raft. look how close we are. can you imagine what the two guys went through for seven days
at sea in a vehicle like this? >> we laid flat. we spread out to hold the square sides square because every now and away the top would break. >> they did not have an emergency position indicating, radio beaker on them. >> it basically let's the coast guard know exactly where you are to within 100 yards. >> did you have an eperb? >> we did not. >> are you regretting not having it? >> it will never happen again. >> through it all, they never lost hope. >> i was going to -- i knew -- >> fortune favors the bold. apparently this may be true. >> rick: reporting from our fox affiliate station in tampa. i'm sure those guys are very good friends. but after that, i wouldn't be surprised if they spend a little bit of time apart. >> arthel: they're very descriptive, but i'm glad they're safe. i can see your point. >> rick: let's get together in a
month or so. >> arthel: okay. when we come back, john roberts, health care decision pretty much splitting along party lines in the court of public opinions. our next guest says those views may be too simplistic, arguing roberts may have saved the supreme court itself as an institution. more on her take coming up next.
>> arthel: there has been a lot of reaction in the week of the supreme court's decision on healthcare and that might be an understatement. most of it directed squarely at chief justice john roberts. but is that criticism warranted? our next guest has some unique thoughts on that. here she is, susanestridge, fox news contributor. hi, susan. >> hey, how are you? >> arthel: i'm well. let's break this down in percentages. what percentage of chief justice
roberts' decision was about the law, about politics, his legacy, and that of the supreme court of the united states? >> you know, i think it's all part of the same piece. i hate to pat myself on the back, but you and i talked about this months ago and unlike a lot of people, i've said from the beginning that i thought chief justice roberts would be part of a majority that upheld this law. and that that was the right thing for a chief justice to do because it's not really politics. the legitimacy of the court, keeping the court out of partisan politics on a close question like this one, i really do think the chief justice has a responsibility that goes beyond, you know, drawing the lines on the commerce clause to the much larger issue of protecting the legitimacy of the court. and imagine what would have happened if this decision had come out the other way. you'd have people railing about it in the political debate.
you'd have people sitting here and saying, you know, five republicans against four democrats. you'd have democrats saying the supreme court is frustrated the will of the people. it would be an ugly debate. instead what we have is the recognition that the health care issue is back where it belongs, which is in the political process. >> arthel: going there, susan, you're right, you did predict that rightly so months ago. so kudos to you for that. >> right. that's why i get the big bucks, art. >> arthel: exactly. let's talk with the so-called obamacare. it's no longer in the u.s. supreme court, so the ball is back in the president's court, if you will. what does the president need to do to make sure that voters stick with him come november? >> you know, the funny part is, art, that's a really good question, the president, i think did an amazing job in getting congress to pass legislation which congress has refused to
pass for decades. i think his advocates did a first rate job, even though didn't appear that way at first -- in convincing the supreme court to uphold the law. what he's done frankly a terrible job of is explaining to people why it is that this law actually helps them. and we're back in the political process. it's in his court. it's also in congress' court. nothing is going to happen before the election. but what the president has to do is get out there and explain to people why it is this is going to help them, not hurt them, because on that issue, the opponents of the law have far surpassed him. >> arthel: of course, it's going to be in romney's court. but before that. let me hear this with you. my producer, christine, got to give her props, she quoted you. here it is, march 31, 2012, this is when susan predicted on our air that the court would fall
6-3 in favor of health care. so there you have it. >> i was one off and that was just justice kennedy. but i was -- the reason i thought it would be upheld is really the reason it was upheld, was to keep -- in addition to thinking he was right on the merits, but keep the court out of politics. >> arthel: i didn't want to put you in the spot. let me move on of the i've got another minute. get to this for me, i asked about the president. so how does governor romney get the vote force do otherwise, which is not stick with the president, especially since his healthcare law passed while he was the governor of massachusetts resulted in more than $.6 million in extra tax revenue this is year? >> you know what, art? there is the $64,000 question. there is only so hard romney can push on this issue because there is so much stuff, you know, newspaper articles, debate clip. >> whole thing showing that essentially he did the same
thing in massachusetts. so the republicans' effort to make this a campaign issue at the presidential level is going to be difficult. i think we're going to see it in house and senate races. >> arthel: we will be watching. i know you will as well. susan, always good to see you. we'll talk to you later. take care. it's 6:48 here on the east coast. 3:48 on the west coast where susan is. outside is my main man, rick folbaum. >> rick: brand-new 2012 prius 5, sweet, flight it's a hybrid. you can save money on gas driving one of these things. what if you don't have a hybrid? can you still save money on gas? we've got tips on you. "consumer reports" will be here coming up next. don't go away with the capital one cash rewards card you get a 50% annual bonus. and everyone likes 50% more cash -- well, except her. no! but, i'm about to change that. ♪ every little baby wants 50% more cash... ♪
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cooled off a little bit since i came to work earlier. >> arthel: exactly. >> rick: still hot. gas prices are also dropping a little bit across the country. they're cooling offment still about $3 a gallon. most places. >> arthel: that's still too much for a lot of people, i think. but right now, 3.34 actually. so that's according to triple a. but "consumer reports" has some great tips to help you stretch your gas budget, especially as we head into the summer driving
season. the man himself, "consumer reports" editor senior associate editor, eric everetts is here. how are you? so glad you're here and you brought this prius. what's so special about this particular model? >> this is the bigger prius. if you're going on summer vacation, this is probably the one you want 'cause it's got more cargo space, more back seat. still gets 41 miles per gallon. >> rick: we'll? >> it's called a prius v. we put it in the wagon category, yeah. it's like a wagon. similar to the prius. it starts at about 26 and this particular one is the top of the line prius v. they call it the 505 trim, like 30. >> arthel: that's not that bad. >> rick: a lot of people are not going to be able to afford a hybrid like a prius or some of these high landers on the road. so for folks who aren't driving around in a hybrid car and still want to save money. >> arthel: or if they don't want to get a new car, just save
money, give us some tips. >> the main thing is drive smoothly. you don't want to be jack rabbit starting starting and slowing down. all of that wastes gas. >> arthel: don't speed. >> don't speed. we found that if you slow down from 60 miles an hour to 50 miles an hour in a regular car, you can save almost 10 miles per gallon and if you speed up to 70 miles an hour, you lose about 4 miles per gallon. >> rick: really? >> yeah. >> arthel: then, of course -- >> rick: i don't like that tip. >> arthel: in the summer, you want to -- a lot of people are doing the road trips and carrying a lot of stuff on top of the car. >> even with empty racks on the car, we lost 2 miles per gallon in a -- it was a toyota camry we tested it with. >> rick: if you were to leave a couple of your family members at home, you would get better mileage. >> arthel: you're going to get in trouble. >> that's why you use a bigger car. >> arthel: what about this? a lot of cars that you must use, the premium, some of the cars
don't need the premium. you can save a little gas money there. >> basically, inside the fuel filler door, it will say either premium required tore proposal yum recommended or it won't say anything. if it says premium required, then you want to use premium gas. if it says premium recommended, then you don't need to. >> arthel: you can go to the one lower? >> yes. >> arthel: so minimize driving with a cold engine. >> basically if you're going out and you have a bunch of errands to do, one of the things we found that cost the most in fuel economy was restarting the car all the time with a cold engine. so if you combine all of those trips into one, make a few stops, if you stop for a minute or two, the engine won't cool off that much. >> rick: what about the tires? the amount of air in your tires could have an effect. >> the amount of air in your tires, if you are down ten pounds of air in a tire, that will also cost you 2, 3 miles per gallon. the more important thing is safety with keeping your tires inflated. >> arthel: if they're too low, they can get really hot.
>> they can get really hot and in the case of the ford explorers, we saw summableouts. but morell haven'tly, we tested stopping distances and emergency handling and both of those diminished significantly. >> arthel: finally, you were saying that sometimes you can't do in traffic in summer, trying to get from here to wherever you're going, to avoid idling for long periods. >> yeah. if you're idling for more than 30 seconds or a minute, you're better off shutting the engine off. >> rick: eric, always nice to have you guys from "consumer reports." thank you for coming in. >> thank you. >> arthel: that's going to do it for us. harris faulkner is coming up next. you can call them anytime you feel like saving money. it don't matter, day or night. use your computer, your smartphone, your tablet, whatever. the point is, you have options.